The gay activist movement is panicked and often enraged by former gays. What is of primary importance is not why the panic, but rather a touch of bright light on the intolerance of the gay activist community that strives to infantilize and intimidate former gays, or shall I say gays-in-recovery.

This infantilization comes as activists try to “help” the poor gay-in-recovery from their own infantile mistaken choices and self destruction.In a similar way they are like the condescending Big Government, deciding to protect citizens from their own immature and foolish choices, because they don’t know any better than to wish,in this case, not to be gay.

Some activist leaders announce they are protecting the seeker from hurt and disappointment and thus justify their attacks and thuggery. But if that not-gay choice somehow fails to produce the wished for outcome, so what? It was their free choice. But the oppressive activist is like an alcoholic in denial, blinded to anything outside their own beliefs,and unable or unwilling to accept the existence of ex-gays. And when there are identifiable ex-gay humans, they are dismissed as not really gay in the first place. This keeps the no-ex-gay fiction in place, because what if there really are ex-gays?

If the therapists mentioned above are right in saying (paraphrased) “a homosexual becoming non-homosexual by therapy proves that homosexual people aren’t born homosexual”, would a heterosexual becoming homosexual by therapy prove that heterosexual people aren’t born heterosexual?… Well, well, well. Now it becomes complicated ehh? Or really not. Changing peoples perceptions of themselves into something else by therapy, proves nothing of how they were born, only that therapy (and the stronger versions of brainwashing etc) can alter our minds… Sufficient religious schooling (christian schools, muslim madrassas, buddhist temples etc etc) can also force a persons mind into believing a certain thing. But, that doesn’t all of a sudden make that one thing “real all the way from the beginning of their birth” (nor from the beginning of time). right now my children believe in Santa Claus, but that doesn’t make him real either. So please: Get your methods straight there Marcus Bachmann. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing you deserving the PhD title…. PS: I am heterosexual, but with complete respect for homosexual (bisexuals, trans- and nongendered etc). I am liberal on some points, conservative on others, so please spare me the often seen “you liberal misfit”-upchuck. Cheers, Jesper.

“Mr. Bachmann, has a PhD in clinical psychology and runs several counseling centers. Those centers also offer to help homosexual clients who want to overcome unwanted same-sex attractions. The problem: even one ex-gay proves that homosexual behavior is not something that one is born with, or something that he or she cannot change. So the gay lobby fears its former members. So they make false claims and attacks to prevent homosexuals from exercising their right to self-determination. They cannot bear to have even one homosexual leave homosexuality. Hence their outrage at Dr. Bachmann.”

Are you sure the outrage isn’t because he compared homosexual’s to barbarians?

People totally choose to be gay. I remember when I chose to be a heterosexual. Oh wait, that never happened.

“The problem: even one ex-gay proves that homosexual behavior is not something that one is born with, or something that he or she cannot change.”

That’s kind of an illogical jump. More accurately, the idea you’ve expressed is: “If one homosexual can be conditioned to deny their sexuality this proves that psychological conditioning can effectively erode a person’s identity into whatever we’d like to proclaim as normal.”

You’ve made an argument for the effectiveness of brainwashing, not an argument concerned with the nature of human sexuality.

Of course, there are alternative theories to the hetero/homo sexuality dichotomy, including a universal polysexuality, meaning that it isn’t simply about gender or biological sex, but some intrinsic quality in the people we find sexually attractive. I’m predominantly attracted to women, but that doesn’t mean I’m attracted to all women, and in fact, I’m only attracted to a small subset thereof. It makes more sense to think of sexuality not as a binary constant, but as something much more fluid, and much more ineffable.

Also, if you care so much about personal freedoms, why won’t you grant gay people the right to do what they want to in their own bedrooms? How is it any of your business what two consenting adults do in private? How does that have any influence on your own life?

And if you quote Leviticus, that book also says that shellfish is an abomination, slavery is good, and women should marry their rapists. Will you demand that the entire state of Maine should undergo therapy to make them ex-lobster eaters?

What people have to remember is that no one is born “homosexual”. It is a behavior. As with many “leftist” and “anything goes” movements the difference between behaviors and non-behaviors are intentional distorted. Humans have two sexes or genders – male and female. And not counting the genetic anomalies created when two fetus fuse together no human is bi-sexual – earthworms and many plants are bi-sexual. Nor is “homosexuality” a ethnicity.

“Homosexuality”, or the proper term “sodomy”, is a description of sexual behavior two individuals of the same sex are engaging in when the engage in sex with each other. Over the years the proper term has been distorted to include such things are oral sex with a member of the opposite sex. But regardless it is a description of a behavior.

When a child goes through puberty their bodies react to the hormones around them. These reactions have nothing to do with sex but are dominance reactions which can be seen in the world around us. Even an adult’s body will react to the hormones of children going through puberty. It is a natural reaction to hormones. Adults who understand this don’t overreact.

Consider, when two male Hippos fight the winner will climb onto the loser and ejaculate on the loser. This is not “homosexual” behavior but classic dominance behavior. This type of social dominance behavior is present in the animal kingdom. The Bonobo (?) monkeys have behavior that people associate with homosexuality but the behavior is dominance behavior used to establish ranks in the troop.

This is why it is important to teach children proper behavior. And obviously why the homosexual lobby wants to present the behavior as normal. Children going through puberty are subject to all sorts of social and peer pressures which leaves them confused and mixed up. Teach a child that the normal reactions of their bodies to the hormones around them means they are “homosexual” and they can then be recruited into the behavior. People train their bodies to react certain ways all the time. Thus a person can also retrain the bodies to react normally as well.

And as for the comment about “rights” the practitioners of sodomy have been ostracized as a result of the behavior they have chosen to engage in. Just like individuals who engage in prostitution have been ostracized in society. Engage in deviant behaviors and society as a whole tends to ostracize the practitioners of the behaviors. The keyword – behavior.