Constitution
Sovereignty under fire: The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child
The most difficult part about starting a series on threats to national and personal sovereignty is knowing where to begin. That is not to say that there is a shortage of material – quite the opposite. There is a frightening cadre of questionable acts committed by those that have taken an oath to defend and protect our Constitution. It is arguable that some of these acts have been committed through ignorance or misguided good intentions. However, it would be hard to define others as something other than deliberate and constitutionally criminal. I will leave the conclusion of what and who belongs in what category to the reader, since it is hard to tell what is in a man’s or woman’s heart.
For the purpose of this series the definition of treason will be a simple one: plotting to overthrow the government. But carelessness with our Constitution by our public servants is also a serious charge and recurring substantiated claims should be impeachable.
A threat to parental sovereignty: the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child
In the introduction to this series I mentioned a variety of subjects that will be addressed. The first I have elected to write about is the one that is perhaps the most unnoticed and the most insidious. While we may shudder about the U.N. Arms Treaty that is unconstitutional on the face of it, and Agenda 21 that threatens to deprive us of our property and consequently our right to pursue happiness; it is the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) that I find the most despicable.
The CRC was signed by all nations except the United States (and Somalia of all places!) But don’t find too much comfort in that. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has championed this atrocity and seeks to have us sign onto this neo-Nazi-type of compact. Before you start any politically correct rampage, I would like to remind you that the Nazis created a youth movement that turned children against parents. This piece of propaganda seeks to do that same. The question is: have we learned from history or are we doomed to repeat it?
The CRC undermines the sovereignty of the parent/child relationship while convincing the casual hearer that it has the welfare of the child at heart. When Mrs. Clinton told us that it takes a village to raise a child – apparently she meant that literally. We may have thought she meant that we all need to be involved and concerned about the up and coming generation. Her actions have revealed that she really meant that the raising of the child is not to be entrusted to their parents but to the global community. By extension, any surrendering of our sovereignty to another government body is treasonous in my book – whether that is an assault on our Constitution or an assault on the sovereignty of the parent/child relationship.
What is the CRC? Others have answered that question comprehensively, so I will defer to their analysis. The following information was posted on www.parentalrights.org. http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={550447B1-E2C1-4B55-87F1-610A9E601E45}&DE=
Ten things you need to know about the structure of the CRC:
- It is a treaty which creates binding rules of law. It is no mere statement of altruism.1.
- Its effect would be binding on American families, courts, and policy-makers.2.
- Children of other nations would not be impacted or helped in any direct way by our ratification.3.
- The CRC would automatically override almost all American laws on children and families because of the U.S. Constitution’s Supremacy Clause in Article VI.4.
- The CRC has some elements that are self-executing, while others would require implementing legislation. Federal courts would have the power to determine which provisions were self-executing.5.
- The courts would have the power to directly enforce the provisions that are self-executing.6.
- Congress would have the power to directly legislate on all subjects necessary to comply with the treaty. This would constitute the most massive shift of power from the states to the federal government in American history.7.
- A committee of 18 experts from other nations, sitting in Geneva, has the authority to issue official interpretations of the treaty which are entitled to binding weight in American courts and legislatures. This effectively transfers ultimate authority for all policies in this area to this foreign committee.8.
- Under international law, the treaty overrides even our Constitution.9.
- Reservations, declarations, or understandings intended to modify our duty to comply with this treaty will be void if they are determined to be inconsistent with the object and purpose of the treaty.10.
Ten things you need to know about the substance of the CRC:
- Children would have the ability to choose their own religion while parents would only have the authority to give their children advice about religion.13.
- The best interest of the child principle would give the government the ability to override every decision made by every parent if a government worker disagreed with the parent’s decision.14.
- A child’s “right to be heard” would allow him (or her) to seek governmental review of every parental decision with which the child disagreed.15.
- According to existing interpretation, it would be illegal for a nation to spend more on national defense than it does on children’s welfare.16.
- Children would acquire a legally enforceable right to leisure.17.
- Christian schools that refuse to teach “alternative worldviews” and teach that Christianity is the only true religion “fly in the face of article 29” of the treaty.18.
- Allowing parents to opt their children out of sex education has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.19.
- Children would have the right to reproductive health information and services, including abortions, without parental knowledge or consent.20.
- Parents would no longer be able to administer reasonable spankings to their children.11.
- A murderer aged 17 years and 11 months and 29 days at the time of his crime could no longer be sentenced to life in prison.12.
If you are not outraged, perhaps you need to read these 20 points again.
So there you have it, Part One, and strike one for Hillary Clinton.
Summary
Before concluding, I would like to remind you of other assaults on sacred institutions: the sanctity of marriage through same sex marriage legislation; liberty of conscience through bully laws that go the extra mile and make it a criminal offense to speak your mind if it “makes someone feel bad”, including if a member of the clergy dares to say that they believe homosexuality is wrong; the 1954 legislation that took away the church’s right to speak out politically which violates our First Amendment on two fronts – the right to worship as we please and the right to free speech; Obamacare that also violates the liberty of conscience of those who oppose birth control and/or abortion; and now a violation on the sanctity of the relationship between parent and child.
If you add to this list the other assaults on our First and Second Amendment rights, you have the state telling us we can’t say what we believe, we can’t worship as we believe, we can’t assemble to protest, we can’t communicate through a free press (see the proposed Fairness Doctrine), we can’t raise our children as we see fit, we don’t have the right to own property as we see fit, and of course we can’t defend ourselves against any of these violations if necessary.
All in all, it’s high time we start calling a spade a “spade” while we still have some free speech left in this country. If all of the above violate our Constitution (which they do), and our Constitution represents the heart and soul of our nation, isn’t this treason? While a rose by any other name may still smell as sweet, treason wrapped in sheep’s clothing still stinks to high heaven.
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NOTES:
–Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, Article 26 “Pacta sunt servanda”:
“Every treaty in force is binding upon the parties to it and must be performed by them in good faith.”
United States Constitution, Article VI: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
UNICEF “Convention on the Rights of the Child” says: “the Convention is a universally agreed set of non-negotiable standards and obligations.” Available at http://www.unicef.org/crc/ on 12/2/2008.
- –Vienna Convention Article 26 (supra);United States Supreme Court,Whitney v. Robertson, 124 U.S. 190 (1888): “By the Constitution of the United States, a treaty and a statute are placed on the same footing, and if the two are inconsistent, the one last in date will control, provided the stipulation of the treaty on the subject is self-executing.”
- –Vienna Convention (supra) and Article 2 (g): “‘party’ means a State which has consented to be bound by the treaty and for which the treaty is in force”
- –United States Constitution, Article VI (supra, Note 1)
- –Arlene Bowers Andrews, Implementing the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, 171 (Greenwood Publishing Group 1999): “The Convention is generally regarded as having two classes of rights for the purposes of self-execution, one class that is self-executing and one that is not self-executing.”
- –United States Supreme Court, Medellin v. Texas, 552 U.S. ___ (2008), at 170 L.Ed. 2d 190, 219, “And whether the treaties underlying a judgment are self-executing so that the judgment is directly enforceable as domestic law in our courts is, of course, a matter for this Court to decide.”
- –Inter-Agency Standing Committee Reference Group on Humanitarian Action and Human Rights, Frequently Asked Questions on International Humanitarian, Human Rights, and Refugee Law, (2002), available at http://www.icva.ch/doc00001023.html#24:
“Human rights law also contains provisions obliging states to implement its rules, whether immediately or progressively. States must adopt a variety of legislative, administrative, judicial and other measures that may be necessary to give effect to the rights provided for in the various treaties. This includes providing for a remedy before domestic courts for violations of specific rights and ensuring that the remedy is effective. The fact that a state has a federal or devolved system of government does not affect a state’s obligation to implement human rights law.”United States Supreme Court,Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957): “To the extent that the United States can validly make treaties, the people and the States have delegated their power to the National Government and the Tenth Amendment is no barrier.” - –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Articles 43 (amended) and 44. Available at http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/crc.htm#art43.
- –Vienna Convention, Article 27: “ A party may not invoke the provisions of its internal law as justification for its failure to perform a treaty.”
- –Vienna Convention, Article 19, available at available at http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/un.law.of.treaties.convention.1969/19.html; also Louis Henkin,U.S. Ratification of Human Rights Conventions: The Ghost of Senator Bricker, The American Journal of International Law, Vol 89 No 2, 343-344 (Apr. 1995):
“Reservations designed to reject any obligation to rise above existing law and practice are of dubious propriety: if states generally entered such reservations, the convention would be futile. The object and purpose of the human rights conventions, it would seem, are to promote respect for human rights by having countries—mutually—assume legal obligations to respect and ensure recognized rights in accordance with international standards. Even friends of the United States have objected that its reservations are incompatible with that object and purpose and are therefore invalid.
…By adhering to human rights conventions subject to these reservations, the United States, it is charged, is pretending to assume international obligations but in fact is undertaking nothing.” - –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 37(a):
“No child shall be subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Neither capital punishment nor life imprisonment without possibility of release shall be imposed for offences committed by persons below eighteen years of age”United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child,General Comment No. 8 (2006): The right of the child to protection from corporal punishment and other cruel or degrading forms of punishment (arts. 19; 28, para. 2; and 37, inter alia), CRC/C/GC/8, (2006):
“The Committee is issuing this general comment to highlight the obligation of all State parties to move quickly to prohibit and eliminate all corporal punishment…. Addressing the widespread acceptance or tolerance of corporal punishment of children and eliminating it, in the family, schools and other settings, is … an obligation of State parties under the Convention.” - –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 37(a), (supra)
- –The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child: A Guide for Children and Young People (April 2008), available at http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/04/01081649/1: “You have the right to choose your own religion and beliefs. Your parents should help you think about this.”Geraldine Van Bueren,International Rights of the Child, Section B, University of London, 29-30 (2006):
“Unlike earlier treaties, the Convention on the Rights of the Child does not include a provision providing for parents to have their children educated in conformity with their parents’ beliefs. In addition, the child’s right to freedom of expression and the right of the parents to initially give direction and later only guidance, strengthens the argument that children are entitled to participate in decisions so that their education conforms to their own convictions…. The second question is whether a child has the right to choose a religion.
Under the Convention on the Rights of the Child, parents do have the right to provide direction to the child. Such parental power, however, is subject to two restraints:
• First, such direction should take into account the evolving capacities of the child, as expressly required by the Convention.
• Second, the direction should not be so unyielding that it equals coercion.
It can also be argued that the right to freedom of religion in the Convention on the Rights of the Child ought to be read together with article 12 which gives the child the right to express his own views in the matter of choice of religion.” - –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 3(1): “In all actions concerning children, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration.”Geraldine Van Bueren,International Rights of the Child, Section D, University of London, 46 (2006):
“Best interests provides decision and policy makers with the authority to substitute their own decisions for either the child’s or the parents’, providing it is based on considerations of the best interests of the child. Thus, the Convention challenges the concept that family life is always in the best interests of children and that parents are always capable of deciding what is best for children.” - –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 12(1): “State parties shall assure to the child who is capable of forming his or her own views the right to express those views freely in all matters affecting the child, the views of the child being given due weight in accordance with the age and maturity of the child.”Inter-Agency Standing Committee Reference Group: “Human rights law also contains provisions obliging states to implement its rules, whether immediately or progressively. States must adopt a variety of legislative, administrative, judicial and other measures that may be necessary to give effect to the rights provided for in the various treaties. This includes providing for a remedy before domestic courts for violations of specific rights and ensuring that the remedy is effective.”Geraldine Van Bueren,International Rights of the Child, Section D, 137: “State parties are obliged to ‘assure’ to children who are capable of forming views the rights to express those views ‘in all matter affecting the child’ and to give those views’ due weight in accordance with the age and maturity of the child’. By incorporating a reference to ‘all matters affecting the child’ there is no longer a traditional area of exclusive parental or family decision making.”
- –ibid., at 36: “[T]he United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child, criticized Egypt and Indonesia on the proportion of their budget spent on defence, as compared to the proportion spent on children’s social expenditure.”The Committee also criticized Austria, Australia, Denmark, the United Kingdom, and others failing to spend enough tax dollars on social welfare for children:Paragraph 46,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Austria, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 38th sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/15/Add.251 (2005).Paragraph 17 and 18,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Australia, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 40th sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/15/Add.268 (2005).Paragraphs 18 and 19,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Denmark, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 40th sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/DNK/CO/3 (2005).Paragraph 10,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 31st sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/15/Add.188(2002).
- –United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 31(1): “States Parties recognize the right of the child to rest and leisure, to engage in play and recreational activities appropriate to the age of the child and to participate freely in cultural life and the arts.”
- –American Bar Association, Center on Children and the Law: Children’s Rights in America: UN Convention on the Rights of the Child Compared with United States Law, p. 182.
- –Paragraph 52, Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Ireland, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 43rd sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/IRL/CO/2 (2006):
“While noting that social, personal and health education is incorporated into the curricula of secondary schools, the Committee is concerned that adolescents have insufficient access to necessary information on reproductive health. The education is optional and parents can exempt their children.”Paragraph 14,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 8th sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/15/Add.34 (1995). - –Katie Hatziavramidis, Parental Involvement Laws for Abortion in the United States and the United Nations Conventions on the Rights of the Child: Can International Law Secure the Right to Choose for Minors?, 16 Tex. J. Women & L. 185, 202-203 (Spring 2007):
“The unmistakable trend in the United States is to consistently increase anti-choice legislation, particularly with respect to minors. Ratification of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child by the United States holds a strong possibility of assisting minors who seek abortions without parental interference. [*203] The Convention may offer the best hope for securing adolescent reproductive freedoms on a global level. If enough diplomatic pressure were exerted on the United States to compel it to ratify the treaty, the CRC could provide significant improvements in the outlook for reproductive freedom for minors.”Paragraph 3,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Columbia, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 42nd sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/COL/CO/3 (2006): “The Committee notes with appreciation…decisions of the Constitutional Court on…the partial decriminalization of abortion.”Paragraph 55,Concluding Observations of the Committee on the Rights of the Child: Chile, Committee on the Rights of the Child, 44th sess., U.N. Doc. CRC/C/CHL/CO/3 (2007): “The Committee…is concerned over the high rate of teenage pregnancies, the criminalization of the termination of pregnancies in all circumstances….”
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I wonder if this treaty has 2,000 plus pages, such as ObamaCare. Perhaps, some day if this is crammed down our throats, we will find out. Maybe there is a provision which says, that when couples (be they married or not) are done having 2 children, their home is confiscated; kids are grabbed by the state and the parents hauled off to spend the rest of their lives in government forced labor camps.
Given the above scenario becomes reality, maybe the Hillary Clinton lib extremist types will finally be happy. That’s assuming they made prior provisions to exempt themselves from the requirements that apply to all of us peons.
“parents hauled off to spend the rest of their lives in government forced labor camps”
Paranoid much? I bet you believe all that FEMA death camp rubbish, too.
I know this much. The United States government has built many, many “needful buildings,” with barbed-wire fences to guard them, over the last century or so. And never torn them down.
That wouldn’t matter so much, except that some of those facilities had inward-facing barbed-wire tops, as if these were detention facilities of some kind.
Now maybe those are nothing more than obsolete facilities. It would be typical of the US Bureau of Land Management to keep those lands and let those facilities suffer dry rot.
But the text of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child is something else again.
I don’t see the big issue with it. Sure, it’s a bit fluffy and bunny-hugging, but you’re not seriously arguing that the government shouldn’t be able to step in if a parent is denying their child medical treatment, are you?
You have to ask yourself, first of all, which would you rather have: a few deaths from “medical neglect” here and there, or hundreds of children taken away from their parents for reasons that turn out to be specious?
And second, which level of government ought to concern itself with a thing like that? I’d recommend keeping that as local as possible. The UNCRC is a cornerstone of a one-world federation that would micro-manage everything, including child-rearing.
“which would you rather have: a few deaths from “medical neglect” here and there, or hundreds of children taken away from their parents for reasons that turn out to be specious?”
Like any sane person I’d rather have neither. However I’m a humanist; I could not stand by and watch a child die simply because its parents don’t believe in medicine, and that such things are allowed to happen in your country demeans you all. I fully agree that children should not be removed from their parents for spurious reasons, but denial of medical care is not spurious.
The UNCRC is a convention that is ratified by governments and its implementation will be left to governments. In the USA it would seem appropriate to leave it to the state level unless some states are unwilling to implement it.
By the way, I’m still curious as to why you think children having a right to choose their own religion is a bad thing. My friend Yildiz’s children are (very moderate) muslim. Do they have a right to choose to become christians if they want?
It’s the sensible, thoughtful language of this article that really strikes me: “atrocity”, “neo-Nazi”, “rampage”, etc. It’s this kind of thing that really endears the right wing to independent voters.
Your paranoia is deeply disturbing and your interpretation flawed. That’s becoming par for the course here.
No diagnosis of paranoia, paranoid personality disorder, or paranoid ideation is tenable if the subject has good grounds for the suspicions he entertains.
That’s a fancy Greco-Latin way of saying, “Truth is a complete defense against an accusation of lying‐or of being nuts.”
You don’t have any evidence for your paranoid delusions. This entire post is based around the idea that “they” (the UN) are coming to get you. There’s no evidence; nothing concrete; nothing to which you can point and say “Here’s an example”. Instead, we get a collection of accusations and nonsense.
Evidence for your accusations, please, or they are worthless.
More to come in future articles; have no fear.
Roseann & Terry might be surprised to read that I’m not in favor of this treaty, either. The intention to protect children is a worthwhile one, but the execution in this case too flawed to consider committing to it as binding law.
That said, it would lend more credibility to your position if you at least acknowledged that there are atrocities committed against children around the world that are pervasive enough to justify a minimum level of international protection.
The problem is that many of these practices are rooted in culture, and any attempt to prevent acts that are acceptable to a culture is seen as overreach by the state. In the West there’d be little argument that female genital mutilation is barbaric and cruel and should be banned without a second thought. Try to get the same level of support for banning circumcision, though. Honor killings are obviously wrong to the West as well, but try getting a consensus here on where the line between a parent’s right to use corporal punishment and child abuse is.
Even in the U.S. there are compromises and struggles over what a parent’s rights are where child-rearing is concerned. Should it be a crime to smoke with young kids in your car? What about the right to withhold vaccines even though that puts others at risk?
Also, how is this not a double-standard with the desire to promote “Personhood” amendments around the country. These laws are all about granting a fertilized egg the legal protections of an adult, and then having the state step in to prevent the mother from doing anything the state regards as not in the egg’s best interest.
When you factor in religion, you really hit the grey areas. Should the state override the will of parents to force blood transfusions or life-and-death medical treatment even if it’s against their faith but necessary to save a child’s life? Is it imposing on religious freedom if a cult wants to marry child brides into arranged polygamous marriages because it was allowed in the Old Testament? We don’t have to involve the UN as a bogeyman – these are issues that need to be addressed every day within America right now.
That’s why I was saddened to read Terry’s comment above:
“You have to ask yourself, first of all, which would you rather have: a few deaths from “medical neglect” here and there, or hundreds of children taken away from their parents for reasons that turn out to be specious?”
For someone claiming to be strongly pro-life, that’s a pretty cavalier attitude. You can appeal cases of wrongful child removal, but you can’t appeal a child’s death. It also seems like you have an acceptable level of child death in mind (“a few deaths…here and there”) that can be justified to keep parental liberty from being compromised.
I don’t consider it anti-parent to make the occasional mistake of caution if a child is physically in danger. I don’t consider it anti-religion to force the intervention of modern medicine over faith healing or religious prohibitions if the life of a child is at stake. As a parent the last thing I want is for someone to tell me how to raise my kids, but it’s the parent in me that cries when I read about tragedies because someone couldn’t draw the line between “freedom to parent” and “freedom to abuse/neglect”.
Your argument assumes, first of all, that men can set up a government of international protectors that could never possibly become a government of international tyrants. And second, that the United Nations is a worthy candidate for the honor.
I could point out that a bloc of nation-states that practice some of the very “barbaric practices” you despise, now dominate the General Assembly of the United Nations. And that therefore they are total hypocrites on the subject of UNCRC. They did not pass it with any reform of their own countries in view. They passed it with a view to gaining control over childrearing in the minority West.
I could point you to the National Vaccine Information Center, and to the fresh disputes on the utility of many vaccines (especially the ‘Flu Shots) and their side effects (many of which have long since passed from the anecdotal to the statistical, and the mainstream media won’t admit that). I could recall to your mind an article that appeared long ago in a respectable medical journal (to which I was then a subscriber), that showed that the surgical/anesthesiological management of patients who refused blood transfusion was not the total loser that the frankly lurid popular press would have you think it is. And above all, I could remind you of the meaning of the phrase anecdotal evidence and why it connotes evidence of a distinctly lesser probative value.
I could say that, but I won’t. Instead I will remind you of another phrase: cost of freedom. And I’ll also remind you that the UNCRC totally supersedes and replaces local judicial authority and sets yet another precedent for preferring international law to local law. An authority powerful enough to enforce good law is also powerful enough to enforce bad law. That’s the risk you shouldn’t care to take.
All I’ll say in response is that you didn’t really read what i was stating above – I’m NOT a supporter of this specific treaty.
The intention of protecting children is a good one, but cultural differences within nations, let alone the differences across them, make it too unrealistic to implement.
I’m also agreeing that freedom often comes at a high cost. Thats a fact, but it should never be used as an excuse in this country to turn a blind eye to neglect or abuse.
Where we differ is that i believe any child deaths where parents chose faith healing over insulin or uncontroversial medical treatment are unnecessary deaths, and they
(Sorry, hit “post” by accident on a shaky bus ride :-) )
…any child death from withholdong uncontroversial medical care is a form of abuse. If a parent said their child wad posessed and needed to be burned or beaten to drive out the demons, no sane person would be wrong to intervene. Withholding life-or-death medical care because of a belief in faith healling is no less dangerous.
Oh, and the point about personhood amendments was sidestepped. How are they not state intervention into parental freedoms for the sake of a child?
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