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Global warming and prophecy
Is it global warming? Or are Bible prophecies coming true? Actually, they have more in common than you might think.
How does global warming cause bad weather?
People now use global warming to explain all that is wrong with the physical world. Critics of George Bush even blame him for Hurricane Katrina. They charge that his lack of leadership against global warming let that cataclysmic event take place.
Many believe global warming responsible for the rise in temperatures and the melting of the polar caps. The warmer seas then cause extreme weather changes, they say. Those changes then produce severe rainstorms, flooding, tornadoes and hurricanes. Their theory predicts that global warming can also produce dry areas that will result in droughts and massive fires, as well as record snowfalls. They also blame changes in the ecosystem on global warming. These changes include killer bees, the spreading of molds and fungi, and the spread of disease.
It all sounds rather apocalyptic in nature. The recent weather anomalies in the USA seem to make this theory believable. But we also see geophysical changes that even global warming supporters cannot work into their theory. These include increased earthquakes and the tsunamis they cause.
However, there is a Body of Work that predicts all of the above and more.
Global warming has become the natural and most widely accepted explanation of these increasing disasters – except the earthquakes, of course. On the other hand, hardly anyone mentions the Bible. That Work clearly describes all of the occurrences (including frequent earthquakes) is scarcely mentioned.
What exactly does the Bible say?
Matthew 24:7 (NKJV) says:
For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famine, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
In Revelation 8:7-8:12 and Revelation 16:2-15 (the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments) we read of massive geophysical problems. Trees and grass burn. A massive asteroid falls into the sea and kills 1/3 of all sea creatures and sinks 1/3 of all ships. (Afterward, the sea turns into post-mortem clot and kills everything that lives in the sea.) Yet another asteroid contaminates rivers and spring waters. Frogs jump out of riverbeds, men burn with fire, sores break out on skin—and in the next-to-last act, the Euphrates River dries up. Whew!!! All this gives new meaning to catastrophes of “biblical proportions!” (Not to mention a hailstorm in which each hailstone weighs as much as a full backpack load!)
Perhaps the strangest verses are Revelation 9:20 and 21:
But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands…and they did not repent of their murders or their [drug abuse] or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
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Doesn’t it seem strange that the fulfillment of such incredible prophecies doesn’t bring about repentance of any sort? Could it be that people pass all these occurrences off on global warming, and don’t want to admit that God’s judgment is real? After all, if man, and not God, triggered all these things, then why repent? (Except, that is, of running factories and driving our own cars.) Admittedly, prophecies regarding the “end times” are full of symbols that can be hard to interpret. But given the similarities between global warming and biblical prophecies, these prophecies are worth a second look. And maybe it’s time to ask the right questions—such as do I need to repent of anything?
Featured image: the Hadley Centre, headquarters of the UK weather service. Close allies of this institution coined the infamous “hide the decline” quote.
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“But we also see geophysical changes that even global warming supporters cannot work into their theory. These include increased earthquakes and the tsunamis they cause.”
Ehm, I don’t think there has been any increase in earthquakes? Who says so?
Not the U.S. Geological Survey at least:
link to earthquake.usgs.gov
Tell that to the residents of Sendai, Japan. Tell that to the relatives of the Fukushima Fifty. Tell that to the Chileans who had to dig out from their own earthquake. Tell that to those who live on the slopes of those volcanoes that are erupting, or to the flight officers and crews of a bunch of grounded airliners.
There are an estimated 500,000 earthquakes that take place every year. You have just mentioned less than a dozen. This in no way supports the claim that earthquakes are happening more frequently now than in the past.
“A massive asteroid falls into the sea and kills 1/3 of all sea creatures and sinks 1/3 of all ships. (Afterward, the sea turns into post-mortem clot and kills everything that lives in the sea.) Yet another asteroid contaminates rivers and spring waters. Frogs jump out of riverbeds, men burn with fire, sores break out on skin—and in the next-to-last act, the Euphrates River dries up.”
“Doesn’t it seem strange that the fulfillment of such incredible prophecies doesn’t bring about repentance of any sort?”
These prophecies have not been fulfilled.
But they’re coming.
Do you have any evidence of this other than an assertion?
People have been claiming the end times are nigh for over 2000 years. So far everyone of them has been proven wrong. Why on Earth should I believe this claim over any of the thousands of others that were presented beforehand and failed?
There hasn’t been an increase in earthquakes.
As I told “Wondering,” tell that to the victims.
Whether or not you try to add any emotion or personal story to the claim that “there is an increase in the number of earthquakes” does not in any way make it factual.
Tell me something, Terry. Are you at all concerned whether or not the things you write about on this website are actually true or not?
Any response to my question, Terry? I am actually very curious to know.
Are you at all concerned whether or not the things you write about on this website are actually true or not?
I care a great deal about whether I write the truth here.
But I do not accept you as a judge of that.
I wouldn’t expect you to.
I would expect you to approach my comments with the same level of skepticism as I approach yours.
However, when I see that the vast number of comments on this website are refuting claims made here, that these refutations often come with citations and that these comments are either ignored or responded to with digressions, I find your claim that you are interested in the truth to be highly dubious
Case in point: This very article. It was pointed out by several people that earthquakes are not on the rise. You responded with irrelevant remarks appealing to the emotional nature of the victims of recent tragedies. When it was pointed out that this in no way refutes the claim, you responded with silence.
If someone challenges me on a belief I have, and presents strong evidence to support that challenge I will re-evaluate the position I hold. I am not perfect, I do not know everything, I am sure there are plenty of beliefs I hold that are unjustified. I am open to being proven wrong. I have seen no evidence that you are. If I am mistaken in this belief, I would love to see evidence that contradicts this.
In short, if you are truly concerned about the truth, why do you not meet the factual challenges presented to you by the vast number of commenters on this site? Why do you never admit you are in error? Why do you stop responding to people who have solid evidence that refute major claims made here?
And once again, no response. Should I take silence as confirmation of my assumptions?
Or will you defend your position and respond to my very straightforward questions?
Terry, Please note that I am awaiting any kind of response from you on this issue and this is my third request for such.
I have to say, at this point you only confirm my suspicions that you are in fact not concerned with the truth at all but simply with promoting your world view, whether it is valid or not.
The truth has nothing to fear from scrutiny yet you appear to be dodging many points that are made here, or outright ignoring them.
I continue to wonder, Terry, why you do not respond to my queries. I have been polite, open to you providing me new information and have left ample time for you to respond. Yet the simplest questions I have to ask, you do not seem to want to answer.
What you’re witnessing, Kyle, is something anyone who reads these comment threads in their entirety can figure out for themselves. Editors here like Terry publish articles making specific claims, and when these claims are challenged they are rarely backed up and effectively defended. Instead, tangents and non sequiturs are introduced to try to divert attention from the point they can’t actually defend, and when all else fails they just stop responding and move on to other things.
At least the threads here are left intact, which I give the editors credit for. Over at Conservapedia where Terry promotes these articles, the leadership has no problem banning the questioner and erasing the evidence of the question.
As long as this site allows for civil debate over the articles published, the people behind it are offering something of value by providing an open forum, and that’s appreciated. Expecting that each thread will reach an actual conclusion may be asking too much, though.
This is exactly what I assumed Dinsdale. I just would like to keep the possibility open for an eventual reply.
I agree that there is very little chance that anyone will respond to me, in fact I’ve been told that I shouldn’t expect any editors to respond to me anymore, although I’ve not been given a reason why.
There hasn’t been an increase in earthquakes, not matter what the victims say.
First of all, increased earthquake observation does not necessarily mean increased frequency, or increased amplitude. We have a much better network of observational stations, and we have global communication capabilities. Due to increased population, the human and economic damages are certainly greater. There have been major earthquakes in the past that have decimated cities, such as the 1906 San Francisco quake. Natural disasters almost always bring emotional costs. But the frequency and intensity of earthquakes has not increased.
Climate change is a much different issue. We have a breadth of observations, from atmospheric and oceanic temperatures to ice mass losses in the cryosphere providing unequivocal evidence of climate change. The increase in energy IN ALL exchanging components of the climate system clearly attributes to forced changes in the Earth system. These are not prophesies, but actual current and statistically significant observations.
link to earth.webecs.co.uk
1863 – 1900 = 12 Earthquakes
1901 – 1938 = 53
1939 – 1976 = 71
1977 – Mar 2011 = 164
The main reason that some statistical tables of earthquake incidents have shown an increasing trendline is that the ability to measure and record them has grown over time as well. The actual rate of earthquakes per year has been fairly constant since 1900. Stats collected before then are not of consistent enough quality to be included.
For example, in 1931 there were about 350 recording stations worldwide. Currently there are over 8,000 stations, and they share data electronically.
Here’s a link from the U.S. Geologic Survey with a fuller explanation:
link to earthquake.usgs.gov
Dear Kyle,
You seem to be under the impression that we are obligated to devote much time to your posts, and if we don’t, you want to interpret that as somehow substantiating your claims. You are wrong on both counts. Terry has been very gracious in responding to your numerous questions but there is a limit to how much time either of us will devote strictly to answering your querries.
We have constructed this site to allow our readers to discuss the issues we have raised. It is a courtesy to them. As a matter of fact, you are the very first post I am responding to since the inception of this venture. Do not expect further replies from me, nor interpret my silence as anything other than not wishing to participate in your diatribe.
Now to set the matter straight, please go to the link below. This was an independent study that earthquake.usgs.gov uses. It is a graph of earthquake activity since 1973. While there are variations in each year with a constant change from one year to another, the trend (especially for 2011 which is only half over) is undeniably upward – regardless of what you say or other sources you may have referred to. This chart is the most useful since prior to 1973 our methods of monitoring earthquakes were not reliable for many reasons – mostly due to the lack of stations worldwide.
John’s statistics listed above are also available on the link below.
link to research.dlindquist.com
Regarding the article. You have clearly missed the point -being that regardless of the fulfillment of prophecy – many which are still into the future – the Bible tells us “still they would not repent.” The question being raised in the article is whether or not the acceptance of global warming (again, not making an argument here for or against global warming) is the reason people do not repent – since they attribute all the geologocial disasters to natural causes. It should also be noted that the Bible DOES NOT say that the disasters are something other than natural disasters. It simply fortells their happening and that inspite of that foretelling regarding the time and seasons and the spiritual condition of the world as a whole, people refuse to repent.
I hope this clears things up. And please, remember that this option of communication is meant for our readers.
“You seem to be under the impression that we are obligated to devote much time to your posts, and if we don’t, you want to interpret that as somehow substantiating your claims.”
Not all my claims. Only one, and that is my belief that Terry is not concerned about the truth, but more concerned about pushing his ideology. As I’ve stated in almost every post, I am more than open to be proven wrong about this and to do so should be fairly simple and would hardly take any time at all.
“We have constructed this site to allow our readers to discuss the issues we have raised. It is a courtesy to them. As a matter of fact, you are the very first post I am responding to since the inception of this venture.”
I appreciate your response.
“Do not expect further replies from me, nor interpret my silence as anything other than not wishing to participate in your diatribe.”
I would hardly call anything I have posted here a diatribe. I have been polite, open to being proven wrong, and only made additional requests for a response after several days have passed and I see that Terry has made numerous responses to other commentators.
“This chart is the most useful since prior to 1973 our methods of monitoring earthquakes were not reliable for many reasons – mostly due to the lack of stations worldwide.”
This is the very issue that I and several others have pointed out. Because the number of recording stations and their sensitivity has increased throughout the years, more and more earthquakes are being recorded, however this does not show that more and more earthquakes are actually occurring.
“Regarding the article. You have clearly missed the point -being that regardless of the fulfillment of prophecy – many which are still into the future – the Bible tells us “still they would not repent.”
But there’s the problem. How can the claim be made that no one is repenting when none of these prophecies have come to pass? What reason would anyone have to repent for something that has not even occurred? As quoted in your article ‘Doesn’t it seem strange that the fulfillment of such incredible prophecies doesn’t bring about repentance of any sort?’ Not to me it doesn’t, as the prophecies have not been fulfilled. Once these prophecies HAVE been fulfilled then we can most certainly debate whether or not such behavior is strange.
“I hope this clears things up. And please, remember that this option of communication is meant for our readers.”
Is this to imply that I am not one of your readers? I am reading these articles, that would make me one of your readers, would it not?
Oh my gosh. This is scary stuff.
My question is, why is the Apocalypse needed. Sure, this world is not perfect, but it is getting better. Perhaps, in time, when more people open their hearts and minds to the love and light of Our Lord and when men learn to treat each other in a respectful and civil manner, God will realize that we are worth saving.
The word “Apocalypse” means, literally, a showing. God showed to one of His favorite apostles (“sent-out ones”) what was going to happen at the end of the world.
He has had that operation in the works for some time. He will save individuals who turn to Him. “Collective salvation” (I’m quoting Obama here) is not on the table, and never was.
On the asteroid tangent, ever hear of “YU55”? It seems oddly coincidental FEMA is testing the emergency broadcast service for the first time on a national level the day this rock flies between us and moon. Gives pause to the notion of humanity’s progress, when we rely on our own understanding and ignore the only true hope and peace offered both in this short life and the long eternity which will follow. You may not be convinced of this now, but some day the innescapable reality will haunt those who rejected Him while there was yet time to repent.