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The Joe Rogan Interview – Trump breaks new ground
Donald Trump sat for a three-hour interview with Joe Rogan, breaking records for bandwidth and viewership – and new ground on policy.
Yesterday, Donald Trump appeared for more than three hours on a “podcast” called The Joe Rogan Experience. The tremendous reception of that interview signaled the permanent replacement of traditional television as a national news-and-entertainment medium. But because Kamala Harris declined to appear before that interview, it also likely won the election for Trump. This underscores the importance, not only of the event, but also what Donald Trump said on it.
How important is Joe Rogan?
“Podcasts” take their name from the first-ever sound-only Internet device (Apple’s iPod). These are programs one transmits strictly over the Internet, not on the air or even through the “cable” (originally Community Antenna Television) infrastructure. Today those programs appear on one of the major video channels, like YouTube or Rumble.
Joe Rogan has operated his Joe Rogan Experience for more than eleven and three-quarters years (since January 11, 2013). His YouTube channel has an impressive set of “analytics”: 17.8 million subscribers, 3200 videos, and 5.6 million total views as of four years ago. Interviews on his program run from two and a half to three hours.
When Joe Rogan announced separately his asking Donald Trump and Kamala Harris to appear on his show, many other influencers expressed their excitement. But all agreed that Donald Trump would fare much better than Kamala Harris in a Joe Rogan interview. Most suggested that the long format (at least two and a half hours) would defeat Harris. Trump, by contrast, would thrive on it.
As mentioned, Kamala Harris declined to appear with Rogan. Instead she appeared at a CNN “Town Hall” event – where Anderson Cooper defeated her with the obvious question. Which was: why haven’t you done what you propose earlier?
Trump accepted. Joe Rogan’s interview with Donald Trump earned nearly 14.2 million views – the most views of any of his interviews.
The most recent comments reflect the momentousness of this staggering number. One, dropped a few hours after the interview ended, said:
Podcasts are officially more important than traditional media now.
What did they talk about?
Stephen Miller, founder of America First Legal, offered this pithy contrast between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris:
Trump just wrapped a 3+ hour podcast with Joe Rogan, after flying to TX to deliver a speech on the migrant crime epidemic, now getting ready to head to a packed nighttime rally in Michigan.
Kamala answered 3 softballs from reporters on her way to hanging out with some rich woke celebs.
She just doesn’t have the stamina or gravitas for the job. Stephen Miller
Donald Trump and Joe Rogan discussed many things. What might or might not be significant is that Donald Trump primarily blames his nominal election loss on false stories about him. They include the notion that he was a paid agent of the Russian Federation, of course. They also include the suppression of things about Joe Biden and his family – like the Hunter Biden Laptop. Doubtless these things did set up Trump’s nominal loss – by building the Cheater’s Baseline. That Trump chose not to express it in such terms, indicates that this Cheater’s Baseline has evaporated. And maybe Trump wants to make sure it stays evaporated.
But Trump did mention certain irregularities, especially in Wisconsin – all having to do with absentee voting. This includes mail-in ballots, “drop boxes,” and early voting. But beginning with the 2021 Virginia Pre-Midterm, Republicans discovered early voting – in person. In this cycle, they are mustering “low-propensity voters,” encouraging them to vote early, when (usually) it is more convenient. (Trump did not talk about irregularities involving electronic voting machines.)
Trump briefly poured contempt on his opponent, by questioning her level of intelligence. That came up in the context of the unforced errors the Kamala Harris campaign has been making and still makes.
But Trump admitted to what he said was his greatest mistake. Cullen Linebarger of The Gateway Pundit covers that in detail:
TRUMP: The biggest mistake I made was I picked some people who shouldn’t have been picked.
ROGAN: Like neocons?
TRUMP: Yeah, neocons, or bad people, or disloyal people.
Of national security, Adolf Hitler, and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
According to The Daily Mail, these “bad people” included former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and former National Security Adviser John Bolton. Kelly recently accused Trump of expressing praise for Adolf Hitler’s “rebuilding” of the German economy after World War One, and the loyalty of his generals. But those actually in the room with Trump and Kelly when Kelly said those remarks took place, never heard them.
John Bolton nastily said he considered Trump “too stupid to be a real fascist,” suggesting he had no original ideas. Nobody believes that – especially after Trump floated the idea of replacing individual income taxes with tariffs as a revenue source. He discussed that again with Joe Rogan, pointing out that tariffs were the original prime federal revenue source. He dates the economic decline of America to the institution of the individual income tax. Actually, the fault might lie with the simultaneous institution of the Federal Reserve System. But “The Fed” depended on the income tax for its viability.
The discussion took one odd turn, onto a controversy that is not a campaign issue, but which rages on YouTube. That controversy concerns Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, or Unidentified Flying Objects – what they really are, where they come from, and who built them. Trump acknowledged personally interviewing American military pilots who reported UFOs.
TRUMP: There is a lot of interest in the people coming from space.
ROGAN: How much did they tell you about that?
TRUMP: A lot.
But though he might accept extraterrestrial life (chiefly microbial) on Mars and other worlds, he does not accept extraterrestrial civilization.
After the Joe Rogan interview
Immediately after the interview, which took place in Austin, Texas, Trump was off to Traverse City, Michigan for another rally. (Unconfirmed reports suggest some people left early because the Rogan interview ran on too long, and Trump didn’t get away when he’d planned.) In Traverse City, Trump castigated Harris for “dancing with Beyoncé” at a rally in Houston, Texas, while Israel was carrying out precision bombing of targets in Teheran.
Trump continued his heavy campaign schedule with another rally in Novi, Michigan. Tomorrow night he has scheduled an indoor rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City. No one expects him to carry New York – but he might be there to flip a few House districts up-State.
The best reaction to the interview, other than more than 14 million views, is this post by Mario Nawfal. At 10:00 a.m. EDT Nawfal shared this:
🇺🇸TELEGRAPH: “THE 3 HILARIOUS HOURS THAT WON DONALD TRUMP THE ELECTION”
On Joe Rogan’s podcast, Trump delivered a 3-hour, freewheeling interview packed with humor and blunt reflections. He touched on North Korea, Biden’s policies, and even joked about his “bigger red button” in a candid moment on diplomacy. Despite Rogan challenging his 2020 election claims, Trump seemed unfazed, wrapping up by saying he’d love to return for more. Source: Telegraph Mario Nawfal
Joe Rogan then shared this clip of him and Trump agreeing that few people answer polls.
Then he left this:
Might as well poll here. 🇺🇸 Joe Rogan
At time of posting, Trump was winning with 97 percent of a vote already well over one hundred thirty-three thousand.
Terry A. Hurlbut has been a student of politics, philosophy, and science for more than 35 years. He is a graduate of Yale College and has served as a physician-level laboratory administrator in a 250-bed community hospital. He also is a serious student of the Bible, is conversant in its two primary original languages, and has followed the creation-science movement closely since 1993.
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